Rottweiler Forum:
THEY ARRIVED

5 females and 1 male available and cute as ever..I didn't register this litter b/c if the mismarkings that they have. I will post pics soon..email me for any info. Thanks

WHAT DOES MISMARKINGS HAVE TO DO WITH REGISTERING THE LITTER? PLEASE EXPLAIN. IF THE PARENTS ARE REGISTERED WITH A FULL REGISTRATION THEN THE LITTER NEEDS TO BE REGISTERED.right? ( DO THE PARENTS HAVE A LIMITED REGISTRATION? )

the mother has german pink papers but they are in germany, and the father is papered through akc, but they have white markings on their chest so he didn't register them b/c the original owner of the rott (it's not me) decided not to register them b/c they cannot be shown which that is what he does he breeds to show so all of his pups have to go to pet homes.

You do understand if the parents of the litter are purebreed Rottis they still come with papers weather or not they are "show" or "pet" quality. My girls are "pet" qaulity both came with papers registered with the AKC.I just bough a male being exported from Holland he is a "show" quality pup. His papers are being sent to the AKC I am then being issued an AKC reqistration for him.So I am under the impression that this litter is not PUREBREED since they are coming with out papers. Are you a Breeder listed with the AKC?

This is a purbred litter pics will be up soon of mother and father for you to see so yourself and like I said in the message i posted before, this is my roomates dog he was in the army in germany and that's were he got his rott, and yes she is a pure rottie..lol..he cannot find her papers through all the moving coming back to the us so he wil have to contact the breeder she came from but it will take awhile as for they are in germany.

so i suggest you quit assuming they are not pure without seeing pics of any kind or papers of any kind.okay.thanks..I am a breeder of boxers( yes through akc) I was just trying to help my roomie out, since he has no access to the web.

I'm not trying to offened you.I am just concerned with the Rotti breed!! Many people breed Rottis for a profit and not for temperment & quality. Breeding Boxers is different from breeding Rottis! Papers should be in order before breeding an animal. You would know since you r a breeder. Pictures don't state an aminal is purebreed papers do!

P.S. On that note... please have your homework done and your facts in line. I many seem rude and all but when you began your message " German Rotti to be born in MI " that clearing indicates that your knowledge of Rottis are slim. Since German Rottis are born only in GERMANY!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!

Like I said for the 50th time THIS IS NOT MY DOG I WAS TRYING TO HELP OUT MY ROOMATE. they are full blood rottie and he told me they were german.. boxers,rottweilers, whatever you breed it's all in the same program (pedigree,test,papers) it's all the same sweetie, just diffrent kinds of dogs. Yes their characteristics are diffrent,personality wise, rotts are more protective type dogs just like the mastiffs, boxers are not..BUT when it comes to breeding them you need to have knowledge of the breed your breeding as well. I know for a fact that their is a diffrence in a german and american boxer. not just the fact that one was born in germany and one was not, as for rottweilers i may not know as much as you do but I have dealt with many breeds and know enough (you can never know enough about any kind of breed)you always find out something new. But this is my first experience being around a rott, and that's my roomates and this is the 2nd litter that she has had , and that she was german.That's what he told me so that what I wrote. Have a great day!

Like I said for the 50th time THIS IS NOT MY DOG I WAS TRYING TO HELP OUT MY ROOMATE. they are full blood rottie and he told me they were german.. boxers,rottweilers, whatever you breed it's all in the same program (pedigree,test,papers) it's all the same sweetie, just diffrent kinds of dogs. Yes their characteristics are diffrent,personality wise, rotts are more protective type dogs just like the mastiffs, boxers are not..BUT when it comes to breeding them you need to have knowledge of the breed your breeding as well. I know for a fact that their is a diffrence in a german and american boxer. not just the fact that one was born in germany and one was not, as for rottweilers i may not know as much as you do but I have dealt with many breeds and know enough (you can never know enough about any kind of breed)you always find out something new. But this is my first experience being around a rott, and that's my roomates and this is the 2nd litter that she has had , and that she was german.That's what he told me so that what I wrote. Have a great day!

German VS American We are often asked, “What is the difference between a German Rottweiler and an American Rottweiler?” The most obvious difference is that the German dogs now have tails. The truth is that the German breeders must breed in strict compliance to the standard; their dogs must pass a breed suitability test and have their hips certified before they can be bred. American breeders are free to do whatever they please -- no tests of any kind are required before they can breed. Because of these facts, the American bloodline Rottweilers typically do not fit within the breed standard, thus do not look or act like a correctly bred (German) Rottweiler. Of course, these are broad generalizations; there are good and bad traits in all bloodlines.

We feel that a true Rottweiler is one that exemplifies breed type, possesses a stable temperament and has plenty of working ability. It must also be free from inheritable diseases such as hip dysplasia. One of the ways we maintain these traits is through the use of the finest German bloodline dogs.

In Germany, you cannot register a litter without both parents being temperament tested (BH title), breed tested (Ztp) and at least one parent must be schutzhund titled. If a dog has a poor temperament and/or weak nerves it will fail the temperament and/or breed test and cannot be bred! In addition, to register a litter, both parents must have their hips certified. This effectively eliminates many poor dogs from their genetic pool. The ADRK breeders are also required to use Dogbase before they can breed a litter (see next section for more info on Dogbase). Of course, this is not to say that every German dog is superior. Many of the German dogs exported to the US as adults are “rejects” and are not typical of the quality of dogs found in Germany. In the US you can register a litter of puppies without doing any of these breed worthiness tests. The American Kennel Club is happy to register whatever you have (assuming both parents are AKC registered), irrespective of the fact that they may not even resemble a Rottweiler, the parents have bad hips, missing teeth, yellow eyes, white spots, weak nerves, horrible temperaments, etc. This is why the overall quality of American bloodline dogs is very poor. Good and bad gets mixed up in the gene pool and it just gets worse!

The majority of strictly American bloodline dogs are no longer true Rottweilers. They don’t fit the FCI Standard, despite many of them having American Championship titles. The biggest problem we see are very light eyes, pink mouths, missing teeth, wrinkly heads, oversized, unstable temperaments/weak nerves and last, but not least, NO working ability!! In our opinion, a dog that cannot pass a breed test, temperament test or obtain a schutzhund title should NOT be bred. The Rottweiler is a working breed and we should respect that. People that want a couch-potato dog should buy a Lab or Golden Retriever, not a Rottweiler!! A true Rottweiler is always ready to please his owner, is always ready to work and will protect his family and kids without being dangerous or unpredictable. He is a loyal friend who is ready to share his life with his family.

The last 4 messages are a paragraph from a reputable breeder. So this should some things up they have been breeding rotts for over 30 years and know a little more than you do!

NOW I NEVER SAID I KNOW EVERYTHING! AGAIN I AM ONLY SAYING WHAT I HAVE LEARNED AND KNOW ABOUT THE ROTTI BREED AND I DIDN'T NEED TO QUOTE ANYONE!!! SO WHAT DO YOU KNOW WITH OUT QUOTING SOMEONE. I NEVER WANTED TO DEBATE YOU BUT IF YOU WISH PLEASE PROCEED.............

Hey you wanted to get in deep just read above, all i stated is that there are puppies for sale.you started this debate a long time ago, just b/c the mothers papers are lost in germany doesn't mean there aren't any ways around of getting them papered. I know more about dogs than you will ever know so quit trying to compete with me, I know that I don't know everything about rotts my intrest are neapolitan mastiffs and boxers, these rotts (AGAIN) are not mine. end of discussion.

Again all I did was question you. And it is very childess to say you know more than me. GROW UP! END of DISCUSSION!!!!!!!

hey truth hurts...no you did more than just question me, you automatically assumed that they weren't purebred, which was wrong to even write. I think i would know if they were purebred or not. and you had an attitude between the whole american and german thing...

WHATEVER! YOU WERE WRONG WHEN YOU " QUOTED " YOUR FRIEND. EXAMPLE.. " GERMAN ROTTWEILERS FOR SALE "

BUT I did restate in that thread German Bloodlines. so there..anything else wrong?

how old are you? you talk like a teenager

MUCH OLDER THAN YOU THING! HOW OLD ARE YOU? SINCE YOU ARE A STUBBORN AS AN OLD MAID!!!!! GIVE UP!!!! I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO SAY!!!!

doubt that! I just know that we have some very beautiful rottweilers babies for sale, and talking with you is leading no where but pissing me off so adios! nice chattin with ya, now go search the threads and pick on the next victim. since you are so friendly and nice.

by the way "old maid" what is that...lmao!

p.s. the reason i asked your age is b/c you can't spell for nothing. and how you keep saying "whatever" like a lil 14 year old junior high student.

WELL IF I PISSED YOU OFF THEN " MISSION ACCOMPLISED!!!!!! " GOOD BYE. ADIOS AMIGA!!!!

P.S. FOR SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T KNOW THE DIFFERANCE BETWEEN A GERMAN AND AN AMERICAN ROTTI YOU SURE HAVE THE AUDACITY TO SAY THAT.

alright your cool...you know everything there is to know..LOL!! yeah right..

NOW YOUR THE ONE WHO SOUNDS LIKE A 14 YEAR OLD!!!!!!

first off i didn't.. i told you to begin with that i raise boxers and just starting on neapolitan mastiffs, 2nd i told you i didn't know alot about rotts but i know there is german and american and i do know the diffrence, but the most important thing i said was that there is always something new to learn about diffrent breeds of dogs (which there is) so quit being so narrow minded. you said the only diffrence in american and german is german is born germany and american is born in america..that's bull crap b/c there is alot more to it than just that in germany to even breed at all you have to follow so many test for the rott and pass it all..and that's not even all you have to go through..it's alot of stuff they have to do in germany to breed.

YOU KNOW IT IS OBVIOUS WHATEVER ANYONE SAYS TO YOU YOU WILL ALWAYS BE RIGHT AND EVERYONE ELSE WILL BE WRONG! IF YOU GO BACK A LITTLE MORE YOU WILL SEE THAT I NOW OWN A ROTTI FROM HOLLAND. BESIDES MY AMERICAN GIRLS. HIS PARENTS WERE ALSO REQUIRED TO PASS MANY MANY TESTS AS YOU INDICATED. PLEASE IF YOUR AREA OF KNOWLEDGE IS THE MASTIFF AND THE BOXER THEN STICK TO THAT!! MY AREA IS THE ROTTWEILER. I COULD NEVER TRY TO COMPETE WITH A MASTIFF OR BOXER EXPERT. PLEASE QUIT WHILE YOUR AHEAD!!!

but nothing like germany... they have gotten very very strict over there..you know they just changed a whole lot of stuff in germany, and for your info the rottweiler devolped from mastiff types. you i believe you need to quit while you are ahead.

ps. the only thing i said you were wrong about is the way you jumped on me. and for you info between german and american.

EVERYONE WHO HAS DONE THEIR HOMEWORK WOULD HAVE ALREADY KNOWN THAT THE ROTTWEILER IS SAID TO BE DESCENDED FROM THE DROVER DOGS OF ANCIENT ROME. THESE " MASTIFF-TYPE " DOGS ACCOMPANIED THE ROMANS ACROSS THE ALPS HERDING THEIR CATTLE AND GUARDING THEIR CAMPS. A CAMP THAT THE ROMANS SETTLED WAS NAMED ROTTWEIL. THE CATTLE TRADE FLOURISH IN THE MID 1800s AS DID THE DOG " ROTTWEILER METZGERHUNG" MEANING BUTCHER DOG. TO MAKE THIS SHORT THE ROTTWEILER WAS NAMED FROM THE TOWN ROTTWEIL IN GERMANY. THEIR POPULARITY WAS VERY MINIMAL IN THE EARLY 1900s UNTIL IT WAS DICOVERED THAT THEY MADE EXCELLENT POLICE DOGS. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW?

P.S. I WASN'T THE ONLY PERSON WHO QUESTIONED YOU REGARDING AMERICAN AND GERMAN. PLEASE LOOK BACK THROUGH ALL THE MESSAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I already knew how they got there name from rottweil that german town, and i knew that they are good herding dogs..that's nothing new to me, but look now you are the only one jumping on me, WHEN IT'S NOT EVEN MY DOG...so back off

YOU HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT IT IS NOT YOUR DOG. YOU ARE A BOXER AND A MASTIFF BREEDER. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO BACK OFF. ALL I DID WAS A FEW QUESTIONS AND YOU MY FRIEND GOT A ATTITUDE OVER THE WHOLE THING. SO IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT THIS ENTIRE DEBATE WAS STARTED DUE TO YOU!

It don't matter how many times i tell you it's not my dog so quit discussing it with me, you still continue on and on and on, and your very annoying.and just b/c it's not my dog doesn't mean i don't know anything about this breed, b/c I do.. I know about alot of breeds. my roomie just had a litter born and I don't know if you have ever experienced breeding but it is such a wonderful thing especially when you saved 4 pups from dying, they are alive and healthy pups now even though we lost 5 of them reason unknown by the mother I guess mother nature has it's ways ..we still have 7 beautiful babies left that would love to go to a great home and great owners someday..

SMILE LIFE IS TOO SHORT!!!! IF YOU ARE GETTING UPSET OVER THIS THINK WE COULD ALL BE IN A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY SOMEWHERE STRAVING RIGHT NOW, PRAYING FOR FOOD AND PEACE!!!! HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY SEASON!!!!!!

No like i said you assumed that they weren't purebred and got an attitude from there but before that i was answering your questions to as much knowledge as I had with my roomates dog as possible...and everything i said was wrong..

AS I STATED HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY SEASON!!!!!

LOOK I am not getting mad your just the most annoying person that I have ever spoken to..and so shallow and narrow-minded, that it is unbelievable..it all started just b/c he couldn't find the papers for his dog and he decided he wasn't going to register the litter, you had a fit..hey not my problem, not your problem, but it is his problem, i have full pedigree, and full akc papers on my boxers and same thing for when I get my mastiff, and you breed if you do at all im sure you will have all yours papered to, but I alone cannot get him to do something that he doesn't want to do..did it make me mad when he didn't want to register just b/c they were mis-marked and for the fact he left his dogs papers in germany, no he's not very respnsible, but like i said it noone's problem but his!

ps. nice holidays to u to..

AGAIN AS I STATED HAVE A HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON. YOUR THE ONE WHO HAS THEIR PANTIES IN A BUNCH OVER THE WHOLE THING! GOOD BYE!!

Okay..LOL..and your the one that's always right..lmao..and as I STATED ABOVE YOU HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY AS WELL..

I have to say here - a rottweiler is a rottweiler, no matter what the bloodlines. It is true that Germany is more strict about following the standards, but it doesn't mean that America has different standards. it just means that you have to do your homework on breeders. You have to find a responsible, ethical, moral breeder that is breeding to better the breed, not to make a quick buck! Responsible breeders have owners for their puppies lined up before the litters are born - that's the way it should be. Make sure that whatever breeder you buy from has a health guarantee and that they will take the dog back from you for ANY reason at ANY time in it's life. That's the responsiblity that comes along with being an ethical breeder. One more thing - if you are not involved in rescue, don't breed - you are adding the overpopulation of dogs and doing nothing to help the problem! JMHO!!